Feature #1228
closedListserv-Like Group Email Announcements for Non-Members
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Description
I'm thinking through a group like CUNY DHI, which might want to gather names of non-CUNY people who show up for events and to let them know about future ones. We could invite those people to join the Commons, but that's a non-trivial process. I'm wondering, instead, if there is a way to set up a new feature for groups that would allow group admins to send an announcement out via email to people who are not members of the group, but whose email addresses have been added to a list. I'm asking, in other words, whether we can create listserv functionality (announcement-only) for groups.
What do you think? It seems to me that this would be really useful for many groups and would cut down on the non-CUNY members we'd be asked to add to the Commons, since most groups just want a way to stay in touch with non-CUNY members.
Updated by Boone Gorges almost 15 years ago
It's possible, but it's way out of scope for what I'd like to do for the next feature release.
Calling it a listserv seems a bit misleading to me, since listservs usually are two-way. But I might be wrong about the way I use the term.
Updated by Boone Gorges almost 15 years ago
- Target version changed from 1.3 to 1.4
Updated by Matt Gold almost 15 years ago
I think that listservs can be either announcement-only or open to member posting, but whatever -- you're right that "listserv" isn't necessarily what we want here. Maybe something like "external announcement list" or just even just make it part of the existing announcements feature tab, but just have the option of checking off a box and having the announcement not just go to the group, but also to a list of email subscribers.
Updated by Chris Stein almost 15 years ago
I think it's a good way to allow non-members to follow along with commons activity and a nice bit of functionality that will help keep more outward facing groups on the commons.
Like Boone I think more many-many with listserv where anyone can send messages to all members, but Matt you named it right later it is a way to subscribe to a group, aka a mailing list (email list / subscription list).
I'll have to think about it a bit more from a UX perspective. People who are Commons members can already get this functionality by just joining the group. So this is for people who are not members and can't join (or for some reason don't want to join but want to get messages). We'll have to think of a way to make that distinction clear somehow to people so members know they should just join the group and non-members know what's available to them. I'm guessing that the option won't show if you're logged in.
Also, in terms of functionality are we just going to limit it to announcements or do we want to allow them to get emails on other things like forum posts? And do they get the same kind of control over when and what emails to get? That would be kind of like joining the group in a read-only or subscriber mode.
Either way there will also need to be a way that people can request to stop receiving the emails at some point. Boone, you may have more ideas on this but to me that means there either needs to be 1) a link in every email sent this way with an unsubscribe option, 2)some kind of login. Number 2 sounds like a lot of work unless we make it part of the work to allow membership in a limited capacity to the Commons (the stuff we are thinking about regarding non-cuny folks joining groups) and have a subscriber status that anyone in the world can opt into (still sounds like a lot to think through in that option).
On a slight tangent it's making me wonder if this kind of functionality means we need to add something in help for people who are non-members on what they can and can't do on the commons.
Updated by Boone Gorges over 14 years ago
- Target version changed from 1.4 to Future release
Is this important enough to include in the 1.4 release? I'm thinking we can maybe wait and piggyback on something in CBox, but that won't come for a while.
Updated by Matt Gold over 14 years ago
Quick thought as a possible "hacked" version of this: do forum tags have RSS feeds? If so, one could conceivably create a feedburner subscription for a particular forum tag and use it whenever one wanted to reach non-member subscribers? Ex. If there is a feed for the "announcement" tag on the CUNY DHI group, we could create a subscription just for that feed and then encourage non-CUNY people to sign up for it if they wanted to hear announcements.
Updated by Boone Gorges over 14 years ago
Interesting suggestion. Forum tags don't currently have RSS feeds. We'll get that for free when migrating to the new version of bbPress in a few months.
Updated by Matt Gold over 14 years ago
Okay -- cool. That seems like a reasonable, low-effort solution to me, then.
Updated by Boone Gorges almost 11 years ago
- Category name changed from BuddyPress (misc) to Groups (misc)
- Status changed from Assigned to Rejected
- Target version deleted (
Future release)
Groups now have RSS feeds. Tada! Let's call that good enough as per https://redmine.gc.cuny.edu/issues/1228#note-8. If we have overwhelming requests to do something more robust, we can reconsider.