CUNY Academic Commons

Hi Paul,

How easy would it be for you to provide us with a list of sites on which you need to be removed?

I've made lists of the sites below.

One quirk: The My Sites page does not display the sites in the first list. They only appear from the drop-down menu (see screen shot). Maybe because of the role?

These are the sites I've acquired this semester, I think through simple browsing:
https://kccenglish.commons.gc.cuny.edu/
https://imagine1civic.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://msh334spring2017.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://freequeercuny.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://englishlit.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://english7301x.commons.gc.cuny.edu/
https://engl22049.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://activism.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-admin/
https://adayinthelife.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-admin/
https://anasar.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-admin/
https://cpcs.commons.gc.cuny.edu/wp-admin/
https://msh334spring2017.commons.gc.cuny.edu

The two sites in bold are Faculty Fellows this semester and from the mid-semester report it looks like both of those sites have these plugins IN COMMON (you'll notice bbPRess is there):

Add users Sidebar
bbPress
Category Sticky Post
Hypothesis
Reckoning

Below are examples of sites that I'm linked to because they were old classes that I've taken (rather than taught). One is yours Matt, from six years ago(!). I'm not really saying that I want out of this particular site (my posts wouldn't disappear, right?), but I guess it highlights a situation in which someone might want to remove themselves?

https://amrenaissance.commons.gc.cuny.edu/
https://americanrenaissance.commons.gc.cuny.edu/
https://dissworkshop.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://dissertationworkshopfall2016.commons.gc.cuny.edu
https://dhdebates12.commons.gc.cuny.edu

Thanks, Matt.

This is a request we've fielded in the past. It makes sense to me to add a piece of interface to handle it. We just need some guidance about where that interface should live and what it should look like. IMO it's a feature that few users will need, so it's OK if it's not in a super-obvious spot, as long as it's documented in an easily-findable way. (Maybe a button on the user's Sites listing https://commons.gc.cuny.edu/members/boonebgorges/sites/?)

cc Erik for any thoughts about placement/flow, Ray for thoughts about whether there are existing tools for this (I couldn't find any in a brief search)

It looks like there are at least 2 different places where leaving a site would be appropriate (let me know if there are more):

1. Clicking "Sites" on the main nav bar >> Clicking "All Sites" and locating a site the user is part of OR Clicking "My Sites" and only viewing the user's sites
2. Clicking "My Sites" from the right side menu >> landing on the "My Sites" section of the "Commons Profile" tab

I mocked up a design featuring a "Leave Site" button underneath the "Visit Site" and "Follow" buttons. It would only be visible for sites the user has joined, and it would look the same across both locations above.

As I understand it, once you leave a site, the only way to get back is to be re-invited. Is that correct?

If so, I'd argue for a confirmation dialog, rather than, say, an undo once the button is clicked. The confirmation should explain the outcome of the action in the body.

Since there is already a mechanism on the Commons to delete a site as an administrator, it doesn't make sense to me to show the "Leave Site"button if the user is an administrator of that site.

Curious to get people's thoughts!

Great points, Boone. Some more thoughts below:

I was using "leave group" as my point of comparison when thinking about the pop up in step 2. When the user leaves a group, we use a pretty standard js confirmation dialog (screenshot attached). I think we can improve the UX here, and in similar confirmation dialogs, in a few ways:

• present the action as a question in the header
• explain the outcome of the action in the body of the dialog
• restate the action in the confirmation button

To your points regarding step 1:

For me "leave site" is a secondary action, and should be de-emphasized in the design, hence placing it below the other buttons. I think "Leave" would be ok for the sake of consistency. "Delete" doesn't quite make sense to me, because it's not the same as the delete an admin would perform. To de-emphasize "leave" further, it might make sense to use a text link instead of a button.

I do agree that the "Visit Site" button is redundant, and would be in favor of removing it.

Thanks for pointing out that the user might not be the sole administrator of the site. I think you're right here; they should be allowed to leave if there is another site admin.

I like the idea of disabling the button if the user is the sole administrator, and showing a tooltip. How about "You cannot leave this site because you are the sole administrator"?

I've made a first pass at this. https://github.com/cuny-academic-commons/cac/commit/bc309919982ba83c4d105a64d9ff52ee9b0cd997

I opted to put the link only when the user is viewing the Sites subtab on the Commons Profile. I wanted to sorta hide it for two reasons. One is that it's somewhat costly to generate - I have to pull up membership for sites, which can add a lot of overhead that I'd like to avoid for most browsing situations. Two is that it's not something people often need; burying in this place makes it possible to point people here through documentation, without putting the functionality front and center.

The attached gif shows what the link looks like and how it works.

Great points Boone!
I've mocked up two options. One following your new idea of having the text and link on the left below the site title "You are an Administrator on this site - Leave Site". This brought up a few questions:
1. If you're not an Administrator of a site, are you a Site Member? What are the various roles someone could be.
2. If you're not an Administrator should we show that text at all or just have the "Leave Site" link?
3. If someone is the sole Administrator, should we verbalize that and then as mentioned in this tread disable the "Leave Site" link

The second option I've mocked up is making the "Leave Site" link less visible since it's a secondary action, one that should be available, but won't be used on a regular basis by an individual. I've added a dropdown called "More" or just an arrow for short (if we use just the arrow, we'll need to add an appropriate screen reader text) and then have "Leave Site" under that.

Thoughts?

Addition: In option 1 I've played with having the "Leave Site" link in red or black.

Thanks very much for the thoughtful options, Sonja.

A "More" dropdown sounds like it might be useful throughout the Commons, but I'd suggest that it's a large enough change that we might want to consider it more broadly, and not use this back corner of the site as a testing group.

I've implemented a version of your "link left". The markup on this page is truly horrific, with the odd "Latest Post" thing scrunched in the corner in a way that's almost impossible to deal with. I've rewritten that whole bit so that the "You are an Administrator..." link matches (in typography and in alignment) the "Latest Post" text. All this was impossible to use on mobile, so I also made some adjustments that made sense in that context. See screenshots.