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I thought we disabled the dupe-check for forum posts.

We are currently not disabling the duplicate check.

I just looked into the bbp_check_for_duplicate() function and it looks like when bbPress checks for duplicate topics, it doesn't check if the duplicate topic belongs to the specific forum (or group in our case), it checks across all forum threads. This seems a little too strict as evidenced by Julia's report. Whereas for duplicate forum replies, bbPress only checks the containing forum topic for a duplicate reply and not all forum replies.

One other data point I'd like to know is if this group was cloned or not. Was this new group created manually or through the group cloning process?

I think we might want to disable duplicate checks for forum topics only and this should solve our problem. We might get a few more instances of duplicate topics though, but I guess the group admin or poster can remove the topic manually themselves if a duplicate topic is encountered.

Also, this kind of ties in with #13136 and might help in solving that issue as well.

Ray, I asked about the creation and she replies The group was created manually.

Julia writes:

"It would be helpful to have a warning and then a "post anyway" option (I know this is also not an easy fix--just a suggestion)."

Is this possible while the problem is being worked on?

A "post anyway" option is way harder than addressing the issue under the hood as proposed above. For the time being, unfortunately, the user will have to work around the problem by slightly modifying the content.

Forgive my imperfect understanding - until it's a hotfix, duplicates cannot be posted?

That's correct, Marilyn. We have an upcoming maintenance release on the 26th, which would include the fix.

I wasn't sure if this issue was urgent enough to warrant a hotfix.

The solution here will be relevant to me, because I often send announcements by email to two groups (MA in Digital Humanities and MS in Data Analysis and Vis). Each time I send the second announcement, I make a slight alteration in the subject line (changing FWD to FW, for instance) and the body of the message to get by the dupe detection.

I'm a little unclear on the proposed solution here. Can you please help me understand where you have landed on this? Will duplicate forum posts now be allowed?

Hi Matt, as I mentioned in comment 4, this does tie in with posting topics to multiple groups via email.

I gave this a quick test and this will effectively solve that corresponding issue as well (#13136). You can add multiple group topic email addresses to your "To" header in your email client and this will post separate topics to each group if successful.

However, this has no tie in with the Multiple Forum Post plugin. So this means you will not see any metadata in the forum topic like "This topic was also posted to Group B". I think that is okay though. This also increases the likelihood for spam. If we encounter this, we might want to only allow duplicate topics for group admins when posting via email.

Matt, can you weigh in on whether this should be a hotfix? Julia has been very patient. I think it'd be a nice thing to do.

Hi Ray -- if you wouldn't mind putting this through as a hotfix, I would appreciate it. But if that's an issue or problem, we can definitely wait until the next scheduled release.

Thanks - I've asked and will let you know.